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that would let taxes rise on the wealthiest households while protecting the vast majority of americans from tax hikes set to hit in january. welcome to the saturday edition of "and the washington journal." for the first 45 minutes of the program we are going to be talking about senate negotiating a fiscal clifts deal, what has been going on on that half of the capital. see what they are talking about and how things are going. we want to get your input and your part of the conversation. you can reach out to us on twitter. facebook, facebook.com/cspan. and you can send us an e-mail. this is more from the article, the lead story in "the washington post." they ride, the development marked a breakthrough after weeks of paralysis. joining us by phone is one of the authors of that article, and, laurie, welcome to the program. tell us, what kind of a deal did the president offered? what is new in the negotiations among the senators and between the senators and the white house? caller: there does not appear to be anything new. the policies they are talking about are the senate has been on the table
is no deal on taxes. nearly every american is going to have to pay more in just eight days if congress can't reach some kind of an agreement. checking the big board right now, the dow jones industrial average is down about 41 points. again, we've got a half day of trading and we close today at 1 p.m., so that traders can go out on christmas break. light volume, but there are significant movers that we'll talk about in just a second. in particular, apple and jb penpejb-- j.c. penney. we have shibani joshi and adam shapiro as well and first to nicole, j.c. penney, a lot of people worried about retail sales, think it's going to hit companies like j.c. penney hard? guess what? the stock is up 4%, why? >> that's a huge move on a day when the major market average, look the at j.c. penney, it's posted comments from oppenheimer this morning, talking about the fact that promotions are working well and bringing traffic into john kerry opiniony, you know that we spoke about ron johnson and came up from apple and his whole theory, was no promotion and great prices all the time and that really was work
it to the conversation of exactly where these tax cuts could take place if they happened after january 1st. the republicans want to vote to lower taxes. okay? see them go right to left as it were. the democrats want to see them go down and the republicans it appears increasingly clear are not going to vote to change the figure below the $1 million mark that boehner didn't get past the caucus unless they say to their people at home, they voted to lower taxes on all americans. >> peter, that was extraordinary. >> reporter: i tried. >> one of the best on this show. thank you! >> we have also got mike viqueira. mike? a lot of people and myself included believe that the payroll tax cut is the most damaging part of this for the middle class. if we do not extend it $125 billion comes out of the economy this year. so, you know, when's the latest on the payroll tax cut? any chance it's extended as part of a deal? >> reporter: great question. i cannot compete with peter's metaphor. it's a full court heave as the buzzer is sounding. that's the odds for a deal before monday night new year's eve. the p
. the talks are a last-ditch effort to avoid spending cuts and tax hikes from 90% of american households. mike emanuel is live on capitol hill where all the action is taking place. is there a lot of action? there is a lot of buzz on capitol hill. mitch mcconnell, who will be attending a white house meeting told us a few moments ago that we are always the running out of time. chairman max baucus, the democrat says that he thinks this will fiscal cliff matter comes down as one white house meeting two hours from now. another top senate republican said a short time ago that he was calling on president obama to lead. >> the president is not a senator anymore. he's a president. just as president reagan worked to deal with tip o'neill and bill clinton and president eisenhower, we need leadership on not just taxing rich people, but we contact them and it wouldn't help the medicare fiscal cliff. greg: others are skeptical, noting that high-profile meetings are for show often times and all about tactics. we expect the president will try a stopgap measure extending middle-class tax rates, extending unemp
. at a news conference with the speaker in a call to extend the tax rates. some have urged congressman tom price of georgia to challenge john deere for the job. much more on what is next for the fiscal cliff. one week before we reach that point. the deadline is december 31, january 1. the president is in hawaii. the house and senate are also in set -- in session this week. elliot engel, weighing in on a number of topics, including rumors that former republican senator chuck a bill could be nominated as defense secretary. you heard from the president on friday as he nominated senator john kerry as secretary of state and the new speculation about chuckle over at the pentagon. here are the comments of congressman dingell, the incoming democratic member of the house foreign affairs committee. but there is a huge opposition to the potential nomination of chuckled to become the next secretary of defense, even the president obama has not made his decision. the former senator has come under fire for statements he has made, including one where he referred to the pro-israel lobby as the "jewish lobb
sides are pushing for today. >> i think we can all agree that tax rates are the biggest sticking point. so what specific issues are your sources saying that they might actually address in this meeting today besides tax rates? could they talk about unemployment benefits, spending cuts, what's expected to come up today? >> this is the -- the specific details of the proposal could include in addition to tax rates, as you point out, an extension of unemployment benefits. the amt fix, the alternative minimum tax would be patched for another year. and medicare doctor payments, preventing pay cut s s to medic providers. and the question that republicans are asking is would the president and democrats be willing to include some way to avert an estate tax hike and would democrats be willing to find a way to pay r for extending unemployment benefits. those are unknowns and we expect that will be something they will bring up at that meeting. again, not too much optimism that even if those issues get resolved, all of this gets through the house and senate before new year's but we can always hope.
john boehner seem so close to getting a deal done. they were really close on taxes and entitlement reform. we saw that last week house speaker john boehner couldn't get his plan b through the house. aides tell me right now president obama does not feel as though he has to compromise much more. he believes he has the leverage because he won reelection. >> on taxes i know it is hard for the republicans but the president ran on that platform. 250. no taxes for people below but taxes above. he won. 60% of the voters said they were for it in the exit polls including some republicans. >> reporter: there is also a lot of skepticism among lawmakers. senator joe lieberman said he thinks the country is closer than ever to going over the cliff. the last time interestingly that lawmakers worked between the christmas holiday and new year's was in 1996. that is, of course, when they were dealing with the government shut down. politics will be put aside this morning. the president, a lot of members of congress will be attending that memorial service for the late senator. >> kristen welker in hawa
tense meeting with the president. this is perhaps the final effort to avert the tax increase that is expected to cost the average family several thousand dollars a year. four days remain to reach an agreement, get it passed by the house and the senate and signed into law by the president. we're talking a long shot here. now, want to show you the players. president, there in the middle, democrats nancy pelosi and harry reid. republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. those four members of congress are expected to make the drive from the capital, which you see on the right, down pennsylvania avenue, to the white house, there on the left. and we expect them to enter through a side door on the west side of the mansion. that's the entrance right there. and they'll meet with the president. in the oval office. beginning, we're told, at 3:00 p.m., less than one hour from now. and just four days ahead of the so-called fiscal cliff. so a very big moment in the nation's capital. and to walk us through what might happen we turn to jessica yellin, a chief white house correspondent. jes
these prevent it, in control of whether or not your taxes go up come new year's day. harry reid, minority leader mitch mcconnell, house speaker john boehner and house democratic leader nancy pelosi met at the white house yesterday afternoon with the president and vice president. here's where things stand right now. the senate leaders are meeting aiming to avoid tax hikes. and they may vote on a deal sunday or perhaps on monday. jessica yellin is our chief white house correspondent. lisa day jar dayne is on capitol hill. the president used his bully pulpit to reinforce the idea that senators need to get busy. so let's listen. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable, why everything always has to wait till the last minute. we're now at the last minute. and the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. not right now. >> so jessica, you were
brings one that is a real doozy, billions in tax increases and across-the-board spending cuts take effect. it forces members of congress and president obama to spend the last few days of 2012 on the job. we want to bring in cnn chief white house correspondent, jessica yelen, we all know they would rather celebrate new year's eve elsewhere. how did they get here? >> reporter: it is such a good question, you know, candy, this grid lock in washington creates the eye-rolling. but the fundamental question goes to the essential differences between the two parties about the role of government, should it be bigger or smaller? about whether we want lower taxes or more of a social safety net. so while we have seen the principles, the president, speaker boehner, and now senator mcconnell and reid trying to get involved in stages in the last few weeks, it has always broken down because they fundamentally disagree about the big ideas over the core of this debate. they're fighting between the two parties. and this could get resolved in a matter of days or weeks. but the big difference, the issues could
discussion here at the white house about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class. and i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. senators reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. >> it comes after speaker boehner left the white house. he didn't say anything to reporters and neither did anyone else who was seen leaving the meeting. here's what we do know. in just four days, taxes will go up on millions. and millions more will have their vital unemployment benefits run out. that's why president obama organized the meeting with vice president biden, speaker boehner, nancy pelosi and senators reid and mcconnell. he urged them to extend jobless benefits. we can deal with cuts to defense and domestic programs later. but let's take care of the middle and working class right now. give them assurance right now. joining me is congressman chief ellison. he's co-chair of the progressive caucus and melissa harris perry, host of the melissa harris perry show here on msnbc. thank you both for coming on the show. >> thank you,
to plan "b," boehner fallback and would have raised tax on those making $1 million but failed when could not get republican votes. >> all eyes turn to the senate that could be key to a deal on plan "c." scaled-back bill that the president says will focus on unemployment benefits and reverting to the 250,000 level on taxes. >> i asked leaders of congress to work toward a package that prevents a tax hike on middle class americans, protects unemployment insurance for 2 million americans. lays the groundwork for further work on growth and deficit reduction. >> that means taxes go up for some now and spending cut on medicare and other programs are kicked to another date. >> what the president offered so far won't do anything to solve the spending problem and begin to address the crippling debt. >> gallup in early december saying 58% of the public thought we'd avert the fiscal cliff. new poll shows it's dipped to 50% thinking that. the public thinks we are headed for a big problem. >> doug: breaking news from treasury secretary geithner it go about the debt ceiling. are we about to go to defau
the fiscal cliff. what will lawmaker do to save you from more taxes and fewer benefits? >>> the littlest pawns in a political fight. we'll talk to one woman whose hopes for adopting a russian son may have just been shattered. >>> and they're back. kathy griffin and anderson cooper ringing in new year's eve. but why was kathy's make itted on "a.c.'s" -- naked on "a.c.'s" couch? we'll explain. >>> good morning, it's 10:00 on the east coast, 7:00 on the west coast. i'm alison kosik. randi kaye is off today. we're just three days away from possibly crossing over the fiscal cliff. for the first time in weeks, there's some hope coming from washington. senate leaders are negotiating a deal they hope can go to a vote, go to a vote soon. cnn radio capitol hill correspondent lisa desjardins is in washington. you were on thrill yesterday for the political action between president obama, between congressional leaders. they sound more optimistic, at least president obama does. do you think we're any closer to a deal at this point? >> i think there's no doubt that we are closer to a deal, but how much
. >> he's going to get tax rate hikes. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are. >> be republican and be conservative and pass a bill that cuts tax. >> boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. >> should anybody's taxes be raised at this point? answer yes or no. >> no. no. ♪ >> we begin as president obama and the senate head back to washington set for one last effort to avert the first fiscal cliff. aloha means good-bye for the president as he packs bound for the white house tonight. the president cutting short his vacation leaving michelle and the girls behind as he gets back to work to try to prevent tax increases and spending cuts due to begin next week. there's just one problem. it appears there would be no house republicans to help hammer out a deal. the gop leadership has not yet called their members back to d.c. and will not be in session tomorrow for legislative business. according to one gop aide, they felt it's up to the democrats to act now. so the christmas spirit has not softened actions. but what has softened? customer confidence
. the stakes are clear, the payroll taxes, income taxes, you name it. they put it all together. and if they blow it, who's going to get hurt the most? >> well, i think the republicans right now are hammering themselves in the foot over and over and over again. at some point they may figure out how to stop doing that. but in the short-term doesn't look like that's happening. i think the low expectations right now are only helpful to them if they can get a deal done. it's not clear that can happen. they may even fall short of these low expectations they've had for two years now essentially both sides the white house and the congress advocating their way of getting it done. >> the barrel they're riding in them, the dysfunction around them. >> house republicans have walked away. i was there at the house conference meeting when he says we're not having a vote on plan "b." we're in this horrible standpoint right now. asking harry reid to ask and president obama to act. >> harry reid's his lifeline. let me ask you this. everybody watches politics. this isn't cnbc here, it's politics.
would vote for revenues including tax rate hikes, even though i don't like them, to stave country from becoming greece. >> today, despite the president being in hawaii, the fiscal cliff is still on the agenda. kristen welker is with the president in honolulu. good day to you, kristen. what are you hearing there? >> reporter: alex, good morning to you. white house officials say this is very much a working vacation, no word if president obama has actually spoke on the congressional leaders at this point. i can tell you that conversations are going on at the staff level. but the reality is that the hard work, the final touches probably won't be put on these bills or this bill, rather, that they're hoping to get until lawmakers, the president, return to washington. and of course that won't happen until after the christmas holiday. this has a lot of people worried, alex, because as you say there's not a lot of time left to get a deal done. president obama, house speaker john boehner, were very close to getting a deal. president obama had given a little on entitlement reform, house speaker j
spending cuts and big tax hikes by january 1. the growing number of lawmakers say they are deeply skeptical that a deal can be reached in the next seven days, and we're beginning to hear new reports suggesting the president may have a smaller deal in mind, one that will keep tax rates where they are and, again, put off the issue of spending cuts. chris stirewalt, fox news digital politics editor, host of "power play" on foxnews.com, chris, good to see you. i was reading your recent column, i want to put a portion of it up on the screen, and i'll quote you: gregg: explain what you mean. >> a cheerful christmas thought, gregg. [laughter] merry, merry. no, when we look back at 2012, if you take a minute and look back at the arc of this year in politics, what you saw was the smallest -- it was the most expensive, but it was the smallest presidential election maybe if history. we didn't talk about anything. the president did talk about higher tax rates, but mostly it was as a way to talk about mitt romney's taxes himself. and we didn't talk about much in this except for mitt romney's character a
with just 36 days to go until tax increases kick, in the white house and congress are playing a high stakes game of let's make a deal. >> only in america believes there has to be this what i believe to be really farcical now surely -- the nature of the world is very fast moving, america has huge economic problems, heading for another fiscal cliff, everyone laughing at you from afar, the american public sick and tired of all the games going on and there are you, grover norquist, a very bright guy still resolutely saying a pledge is a pledge is a pledge, it cannot be broken when many of your own party are now saying you know, what it doesn't make sense to have this irresolute position anymore. >> two things, the pledge is not for life. but everybody who signed the pledge, including peter king, who tried to weasel out of it -- shame on him as the "new york sun" says tonight. i hope his wife understands commitments last a little longer than two years or something. >> whoa, hang on, hang on. that was a bit below the belt, grover. >> hey, if you think a commitment is not for as long as you make i
and he said it was a tax. not a fee. >> well, it needs more clarification. >> south carolina senator jim demint, who is resigning his senate seat and becoming the president of the heritage foundation, which in effect is an admission that the tea party forces where he was their mentor and benefactor, that they are a spent force in the senate at least. >> what kind of a salary does that job have? >> a million plus with a little financial incentive. >> a million bucks a year. >> that has nothing to do withth him going over there, though? >> i think it has something to do with it. >> i would say the abandonment by this administration of a 30-year ally. namely, mubarak in egypt in such a way that it lost and undermine the confidence of the entire arab world in the loyalty and credibility of america as an ally. >> i put morsy in there. >> i did. >> it goes to president obama from the marijuana growers in california because he promised he was going to back off of marijuana prosecutions in states where medicinal marijuana had been legalesed and they have continued up there in particular. this ha
believes you shouldn't tax anyone right now. i would have supported plan "b." >> you know, that was senator kay bailey hutchison of texas. and i would not be surprised if she's been to a starbucks in the washington area this morning. because at starbucks, in the washington, d.c., area at each of the starbucks locations, they write on the cups, "come together." it's sort of an impetus to maybe get these bozos in the house and the senate to come together in the fiscal cliff. we're going to be talking about the starbucks effort a little later in the show. good morning, ladies and gentlemen. >> good morning. >> good morning. it's thursday, december 27th. i'm mike barnicle in for joe, mika and willie. joining the table, we have political editor and white house correspondent for the huffington post, sam stein. >> hi. >> applause for sam. "fortune's" assistant managing editor, leigh gallagher. and the president of the council on foreign relations, author of "foreign policy begins at home: the case for putting america's house in order." and in washington, vice president and executive editor of msnb
selection of funds. >> let's talk about the tax deferred accounts the i.r.a.s. what do we need to know? >> essentially we have to start as soon as you can. you have to be properly prepared. it's not good if we have a lot of debt or if we haven't set up, improved your credit in such a way that you are able to set a sustained investment strategy for your i.r.a. and selecting the appropriate investments, going to a good financial adviser, talking to someone who can assist you to make sure you have a well diversified portfolio, you can have a dollar cost investment strategy over the long run. >> making it simple and easy for us, ryan mack thank you very much. >> yes, sir, thank you. >> ryan has been with us all week tackling the fiscal cliff's effects on your pocketbooks and he'll be back with us next week with more advice to keep you ahead of washington. >>> this is interesting, some are calling this the container cliff, thousands of dockworkers from maine to texas are threatening to strike on sunday. we're going to tell you about how this could cost you and affect the economy. [ tylenol
. if you look at the way that romney talked about taxes, apologetic. very effectively made mitt romney looked like he wasgoing to raise taxes on the middle-class. that was the cry based on this one study. weeks and weeks and weeks. any time the rpublican candidate is viewed as the tax sector. in many had to defend his position in the debate he was a way out of his way to say, if you are wealthy and all you're not getting any tax cuts, and it was a defensive argument on a fundamental issue rather than pointing president obama had twice argue in public that raising taxes in an economic downturn would doom the economy. the president of the united states said that and iran on a proposal. lou: two things that seem peculiar. i would love for both of you to respond. i heard a lot of bonn, abou the tea party. the tea party did not exist in this election. it was a non fctor. why in the world would there be so much concerin the republican party about the tea party. why was there an idea that you're better off today than you were four years ago and pick 2008 as the year, he baseline, and it was a
and family. >> the average family earning $50,000 to $75,000 a year will see their taxes rise $2400 in 2013. >> reporter: income tax rates go up at every level. taxes on capital gains and dividends will jump. the 2% payroll tax holiday ends. the alternative minimum tax will hit more families. long-term unemployment benefits expire. >> sad it got to this point, and it's scary, if anything. hopefully they're able to get to something this week. >> reporter: analysts say congress may miss its own deadline, and that could tee up a january fix, but damage may be unavoidable. >> when push comes to shove, they will find a way to bridge their differences. and it may not be pretty, but it will get done. it may get done in such a chaotic fashion that the economy will pay a price. >> reporter: so we hear from more democrats and republicans this sort of acceptance they might slip past that january 1st deadline and keep working on this. at the same time, both sides said they want to get a deal, and they know there's a lot of pressure from their constituents, from the larger political environment to do so
was to show the american people that the $250,000 ceiling on raising taxes wouldn't pass in the house. why didn't they have that vote? because it would have passed. they wanted to kill it. the speaker wanted to show everybody that it wouldn't pass the house. but he couldn't bring it up for vote because it wouldn't pass. republicans -- a myriad of republicans think it's the fair thing to do and of course every democrat would vote for that. the republican leader finds himself frustrated that the president has called on him to help address the fiscal cliff. he's upset because, quote, the phone never rang. he complains that i have not passed the resolution to pass the fiscal cliff but he's in error. we all know that in july of this year we passed in the senate the relief that would give -- that would give to middle class americans. that passed the senate. now, we know that republicans have buried themselves in procedural road blocks, everything we try to do around here. and now they are saying, well, we can't do the 250 because it wasn't blue-slipped, because it will be blue-slipped. mr. presi
,000 a year, your taxes will go up by $2,000. if you make $100,000, your taxes will go up by $4600. the combination of tax hikes and deep spending cuts could end up looking a little bit like this, over the cliff in a free fall. whiskey and cigarettes in hand. "outfront" we have the view from both sides of the aisle. democrat from arizona and republican from wisconsin. earlier, i spoke to the arizona congressman and asked him what he would support a scaled down deal that the president pushed for on friday. >> yeah, i would. i think that's realistic. i think we're at a point after, after the implosion by boehner and the party not to be able to come to an agreement with president obama. that we're talking about a short fix relative to a new congress dealing with the complexity and a comprehensive package of long-term, of fiscal policy in this country. that's what many of us have asked for, that everything has been to be on the table. that it has to be an honest and open discussion. >> you just said that everything should be on the table. the president has made this clear. he said that
of the cliff. he gets the additional tax revenue for new programs and he gets to cut the mill their, that democrats have been calling for and he gets to blame republicans for it. >> top allies note he has tried to get a deal for weeks and says the real problem that republicans won't admit that obama won the election. >> on taxes, i know it's hard for republicans but the president ran on the platform. 250. no tax increase for people below but taxes for people above. he won. 60% of voters said they were for it in exit polls including republicans. >> wake of house speaker john boehner's plan "b" failure, all eyes turn to senate leaders harry reid and mitch mcconnell and whether they work out something short of $4 trillion grand bargain. last-minute stop gap. attending tax cut for people making $250,000 or less. and unemployment benefits for 2 million people who will lose the benefits a week after christmas. >> it is going to be a patch. because in four days we can't solve everything. >> yet, other republicans note the president short-term fix raises some taxes, yet punt spending cuts u
in taxes. >> here we are once again at the end of the year staring at a crisis we should have dealt with. >> the house of representatives is operating with dictatorship of the speaker. >> we can iron out our differences. >> republicans have bent over backwards. we stepped way, way out of our comfort zone. >> john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership. >> it is very hard for them to say yes to me. take me out of it. and think about their voters. >> he can be responsible for the largest tax increase in american history. ♪ we could have had it all ♪ rolling in the deep >> we start at the white house where at this very moment all four republican and democratic congressional leaders are meeting with the president, the vice president, and the treasury secretary trying to hammer out a fiscal cliff deal. the meeting began about an hour ago in what could be the final face-to-face meeting between the president and lawmakers of both parties before monday's midnight deadline. the house is scheduled to reconvene on sunday evening to do what we don't exactly know. so joining us
. >> they blame house republicans since john boehner hasn't been able to get them a deal to raise taxes. the name calling is getting ugly. >> american people don't understand the house of representative is operating without the house of representatives. it is being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker not allowing the vast majority of the council to representatives to get what they want. >>> and while it's true that the senate controlled democrats is working this week, they are not working on fiscal cliff matters and the house won't even be back to work sunday two-days before the end of year deadline. theoretically these guys have time to get something done here. it is also possible at today's meeting at the white house may be simply window dressing. >> see what happens ten hours from now. time now to take a look at who is talking and this morning we are hearing from charles krauthammer. >> last night on hannity he was talking about the looming fiscal cliff and the president's approach to negotiations. krauthammer giving his take on why a deal has not been reached yet. >> it has been very
connected with this particular custody case and this tax evasion case in russia. >> so matthew, this law would go into effect january 1st. is there any chance that those cases that are pending where the paperwork is finalized and where people are expecting their children, essentially, in a month or two would be allowed to go through? >> well, there is a question mark hanging over those. there are 52 children, according to the kremlin, that are in the middle of this adoption process with u.s. parents. the law, as you say, starts on january the 1st, but it's only a couple of days until then. so unless that can be finalized, my expectation is that that will be put on hold and indeed that's what russian officials are saying, that they don't think this law has been enacted from january the 1st, these children should be allowed to go to the united states. instead there's been a call for russian families to step forward and take on those adoptions instead. >> all right, matthew, thank you very much. russia is one of the most popular countries for american adoptions. the state department says th
the requirement that every american by insurance. >> the year of the cliffhanger. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable. >> of natural disasters. >> it is like the apocalypse. >> and human tragedies. >> they are saying someone is shooting in the auditorium. >> of political fumbles. >> i have five seconds before you interrupted me. >> and shoppers. >> the seriousness of having a cia director involved in an extramarital affair cannot be overplayed. >> as we look back, let's begin with the top political story of the year -- the reelection of president barack obama. as "time"'s magazine cover states -- the president was person of the year -- barack obama will be the first democrat in more than 75 years to win a majority of the popular vote twice. mitt romney has to be asking himself, given the magnitude of the president's problems and the great numbers of americans who believe that the country was headed in the wrong direction, "how did i lose?" at the republican national convention, a vermont couple took the stage to describe how mitt romney helped their terminally ill 14- settle his affai
% of americans from a tax hike on january 1st. the senate bill could pass tomorrow if house republicans would simply let it come to the floor. despite the impasse in washington, a new gallup poll shows 50% of people still believe it is likely that president obama and republicans will reach an agreement before we go over the curb on january 1st. among the believers is conservative weekly standard editor bill crystal. >> i think what will happen is republicans will be faced on monday, on december 31st, with having to vote on a much worse proposal than the one they didn't give speaker boehner the majority for. >> plan b. do we end up going over the cliff or not? >> i think not. on december 31st when both party members release their voters to vote their conscience, they save americans from a tax hike. >> the gallup poll shows 54% approve of how president obama is handling the vote, 26% approve of how speaker boehner is handling negotiations. 45% democratic leaders approve and 26% gop leaders approve of how they're handling the situation. chief washington correspondent and political writer for the
the president talking about moving the top tax rate up to 39.6%. and i'm just wondering, is that as equitable an approach, when a lot of really rich guys and women look at that 39.6%. right now, i'm never going to pay that. >> yeah. >> or would it be better to raise the capital gains tax, say 15 to 25%? would that help with income disparity a bit more? >> well, that's why i suggest a minimum tax. because you're absolutely right. of the 400 highest incomes in 2009, which average $200 million a piece, a quarter of the people paid at a rate under 15% so the only way to get it that is to have a minimum tax. >> how many of those would you bet, if you had to make a bet, paid 39.6 -- >> none of them. they just don't. and six people who were in that $200 million category paid nothing at all. they were around these 47%. they were the moochers. and they paid zero. you know, the way they get at them is a minimum tax. and it's very simple to do. and it will only apply on incomes a million above and another level at 10 million. >> what's the minimum tax again? >> the minimum tax, i would guess, would be 3
. that leaves them just five days to get a deal done to avoid steep tax hikes and spending cuts. senators on both sides of the aisle say both parties need to compromise to avoid a potential econom disaster. >> my one bit of advice to speaker boehner is this. you can't pass a bill with just republicans. on a broad thing like this, you need both. >> ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a good day. we have the same objective of lower taxes. i like simpson-bowles. put money on the debt. tax rate hikes are partisan solution driven by the president but he'll get tax rate hikes. >> some lawmakers say that no deal will get done by the end of the year. >>> the second victim of a shooting in northeast washington has died. beasley was found shot in the early hours of saturday morning. harris was found lying in the road nearby and pronounced dead at the scene. police are offering a $25,000 reward for information that helps them solve this case. >>> a fixture on the potomac river since the 1940s could be closing. jack's boathouse has been renting canoes for decades. the natio
with that woman. ms. lewinsky. >> ronald reagan pushed through a tax overhaul in his second term. he also became embroiled in the iran contra affair. >> a few months ago, i told the american people i did not trade arms for hostages. my heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not. >> there is a bright side, if lincoln hadn't had a second term, he wouldn't have won the civil war. reagan's place in history was cemented by the end of the cold war, and fdr would have been remembered as the president who didn't end the great depression. still, second terms, they don't last four years. they're shorter than that. how long will obama have? is he aware that his second term domestically only lasts about a year to 18 months? finally, political junkies know we don't have to wait until 2016 or even 2014 for our next fix. just next year, we have blockbuster races for governor in two big states, virginia and new jersey. virginia, the clinton versus the tea party, as former democratic national leader takes on republican chair, ken puccinelli who put hi
with that woman. miss lewinski. >> though ronald reagan pushed through a tax overhaul in the second term he also became embroiled in the iran-contra affair. >> a few months ago i told the american people i did not trade arms for hostages. my heart and best intentions still tell me that's true but the facts and evidence tell me it is not. >> there's a bright side. if lincoln didn't have a second term he wouldn't have won the civil war. reagan's with the end of the cold wars and without a second term fdr would be remembered as the president that didn't end the great depression. still second terms don't last four years. they're shorter than that. how long will obama have? is he aware that the second term only lasts about a year to 18 months? finally, political junkies know we don't have to wait to 2016 or 2014 for the next fix. just next year, blockbuster races for governors in virginia and new jersey. in virginia, it's the clintons versus the tea party. as former democratic national committee chairman and clinton loyalist takes on virginia's republican attorney general. he put himself front and ce
-standing relationship with. >> anyway you are doing a good job. >> i have this little gas tax bill though that i'm starting out minimally. i'm not giving -- getting any support, even minimally. i bet on all my arguments and i have people worrying about it now. they won't raise taxes because grover said no. >> when coburn takes off 6 billion on ethanol and grover calls it a tax increase, i called him. >> tom is helping on this. i'm gaining ground. >> is she well? and to listen there. sam donaldson said he would. >> would you mind holding this book for her one of our member's? >> i didn't write this book. i don't get any money out of this. the money goes to the author. i don't get any. no, it's true. >> thank you so much, sir. thank you so much. >> you are welcome. yours get special care. >> hello, senator. i used to work with michael toner at center thurmond's office in the 80's and this is my husband. we are big fans of yours. >> i needed in my line of work. >> you are sweetheart. it's so nice to see you and i can't wait to read this. a. >> it's a good book. i will personalize it. >> we are gett
the tax hikes and spending cuts from aching effect january 1st. meanwhile, connecticut's independent senator, joe lieberman, expects congress to work right up until the new year's eve deadline. he's not sure that will be enough. >> it's the first time that i feel like it's more likely that we'll go over the cliff than not. if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time. >> the president and congress are on short holiday breaks. they're due back later in the week. one possibility in all of this mess is a partial deal on taxes while putting off agreement on spending until some time down the road. >>> former president george h.w. bush may be spending christmas in the hospital. he's been there since thanksgiving. he's battling bronchitis and a lingering cough. doctors say he's in stable condition but needs to build up his energy. >>> south africans are sending warm wishes to former president nelson mandela. he's been in the hospital for more than two weeks with a lung infection. he also has gall stone surgery as
? no taxes? no deals, no compromises. no nothing. period. this is the wall that those of the tea party have raised up. they can't vote for what they campaigned against, spending money on government. and that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. >> tonight, in new york city, welcome to "politics nation" second annual revvie awards. it's the best and the worst in politics, 2012. look, all the big stars are on the red carpet. donald trump is in the unreality show category. paul ryan's pumped and ready to go. what's with the hat there? >> and what's an awards show without this guy. he survived a really rough year and he's looking just great tonight. the evening is about to get started. so take a seat before clint eastwood yells at it. sit back and enjoy the show. without further adieu, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome your master of ceremonies and the host of "politics nation," the reverend al sharpton. >> good evening. and welcome to "the revvie awards." i'm al sharpton and the host of this evening's festivities. it's a big ni
in history and was built about being big issues, taxes, spending, health care, immigration. but all too often the media were by gaffes, missteps. >> yesterday, i guess the only thing worse you could say is in a time like this when people are out of work is that herbert hoover is my hero. >> i think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign. everything changes. it's almost like an etch a sketch. you can kind of shake it up and we start all over, again. >> mitt romney and his campaign wanted to talk about his victory in the illinois primary but then the debate over this iconic children's toy the etch a sketch threatened to erase all that. >> the private sector is doing fine. the private sector is doing fine. the private sector is doing fine. >> this is not fine by any measure. it is shocking and unacceptable. >> what do you want me to tell romney? i can't tell him to do that to himself. you're crazy. you're absolutely crazy. >> that is the weirdest thing i have seen at a political convention in my entire life. >> they brought us a whole binders full of women. >> it's the phrase that won't di
people see your tax returns, 12 years, which his father did, all that stuff. and so mitt romney having lived his life, built his life, to be able to do this, run his campaign is now at home tonight with his tax returns. he is the biggest loser in america. karen finney, biggest loser. >> biggest loser, anybody who was taking their cues from the mitt romney campaign's polls in that last couple of weeks and was out there talking about 300 electoral votes, that was really fun. >> joy? >> it was close, paul ryan, being associated with the biggest loser is almost as bad as being the loser. >> and history, you could go nowhere. >> this time, it was a tie between him and rupert murdoch. his entire news was exposed, fox news was literally exposed on election night. their entire narrative on election night was false, you had the phone-hacking scandal, so he is just a mess right now, a tie, slight edge over ryan. >> the biggest loser, a long-time coming. when i first started to work for senator cantwell, and people discussed things, saying you can't do that because of "the pledge." i didn't know
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